Is your child talking back? Refusing to bathe? Staying up past their bedtime? Call Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle, the star of Betty MacDonald’s 1947 novel Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle and a series of other books that followed. Alli’s guest on Episode 241 was a major fan of these books when they were growing up, and they’re here to jump into MacDonald’s wacky world all over again. Tune in for discussions about conformity, radishes, fatphobia, negligent dads, childless millennials, and so much more.

Meryl Wilsner is the author of Something to Talk About, Mistakes Were Made, and the forthcoming Cleat Cute. Follow them on Instagram (@merylwilsner) and Twitter (@merylwilsner).