Book Squad Goals

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Othersode #40: God’s Plan for This Mouse / Devs / Our 3rd Birthday!

It has been predetermined that you will listen to this episode. This week on #BookSquadGoals, we examine “Devs,” the FX series on Hulu. We discuss determinism vs. free will vs. multiple universes, religion, the characters, and all the Alex Garland-ness of the series, including his casting choices. Plus, it’s our third birthday! We exchange “Secret Santa” birthday gifts and celebrate three years of podcasting fun! Read along for our next #bookpisode on “Ninth House” by Leigh Bardugo on May 18. That episode will also have an extra special interview with Veronica Roth, author of the Divergent series! For our next #othersode on June 1, catch up with HBO’s series “Atlanta’s Missing and Murdered: The Lost Children,” and get ready for another author interview with Mary Kay McBrayer about her debut book, “America’s First Female Serial Killer: Jane Toppan and the Making of a Monster.” Send any listener feedback to or DM us on Instagram or Twitter @booksquadgoals!

0:30 – What would your tech company be working on in secret?
9:30 – Show intro
11:28 – Science, technology, and Devs
27:00 – Religion
36:30 – Determinism
57:06 – Representation
1:10:00 – Other comments
1:17:58 – Birthday pressies
1:37:44 – What’s on the blog? What’s up next?
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