Navigating the Debacle in Afghanistan: George Packer and Ayad Akhtar, Plus the Future for Afghan Women

On this special edition of The PEN Pod, we focus on the fall of the US-backed government in Afghanistan. First, we have a conversation between PEN America president Ayad Akhtar and journalist and author George Packer. They discuss the fate of Afghanistan’s writers and translators, reflect on the decline of American power globally, and discuss more broadly the future of defending free expression. Then, we preview a conversation with Afghan American author Nadia Hashimi—and outline how you can take action to defend Afghanistan’s writers, artists, and free speech defenders.

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