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BSG #44: Four Brunettes and a Book / Magic For Liars / Interview with Karen Salyer McElmurray

Things get a little magical this week as the Book Squad discusses “Magic for Liars” by Sarah Gailey. We cover the inevitable comparisons to those *other* books set in a magical school, how this book works as a mystery novel, and how we feel about our narrator, Ivy. Then, Emily interviews Karen Salyer McElmurray, author of “Wanting Radiance.” Later, we dig into a little listener feedback and catch up on what’s happening on the #BookSquadBlog. Rent “The Secret Garden” for our next #Othersode on August 24th, and read along with us for our next #Bookpisode on “We Set the Dark on Fire” by Tehlor Kay Mejia on September 7th!

0:30 — What magical subject would you teach?
8:19 — Book intro
10:00 — How does “Magic for Liars” work to do something different from Harry Potter?
21:21 — How the novel works as a mystery
37:37 — Ask a man
41:42 — Ratings
51:24 — Interview with Karen Salyer McElmurray
1: 26:52 — A little listener feedback
1:30:25 — What’s on the blog? What’s up next?

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