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BSG #41: I See Dead People / Ninth House / Interview with Veronica Roth

Come behind the Veil with us as we discuss Leigh Bardugo’s novel “Ninth House.” We talk about fantasy and mystery, class and privilege, trauma and more in Bardugo’s first novel for adults. Then we have a special interview with Veronica Roth, author of “Chosen Ones” and the Divergent series. Next, we dig into some listener feedback from some throwback BSG reads and fill you in on what’s on the #BookSquadBlog. Our next #Othersode (June 1) will be filled with crime – watch “Atlanta’s Missing and Murdered: The Lost Children” on HBO with us for our discussion of this case. Plus, we have another author interview with Mary Kay McBrayer, author of “America’s First Female Serial Killer: Jane Toppan and the Making of a Monster.” Then, our next #Bookpisode on June 15 will cover “Mostly Dead Things” by Kristen Arnett! Read along with us and send your feedback to!

Table of Contents

0:30–a special day for Mary
4:13–a content warning, and what’s your secret society?
10:54–book summary
14:20–how genre works in the book
24:51–secret societies
29:30–privilege and class
1:02:19–Veronica Roth interview!
1:13:00–listener feedback
1:39:40–what’s on the blog? What’s up next?

Leigh Bardugo’s NPR interview:

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